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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: Sword's Promise Reply with quote
I know I keep asking about stuff I see in samurai films, but as my questions pertain to historical/cultural/behavioral matters (rather than films), it seems I should post here. Correct me if I am in error.

Anyhow, I'm watching a film where a samurai asks for another samurai's promise, and while the second man says nothing, he pulls his sword out of the scabbard a little ways, then pushes it firmly back in. I'm guessing this is shorthand for a samurai's promise. Or is it just a casual gesture? Any background on this?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've seen this gesture in many samurai films -- in SEPPUKU, in various Chushinguras and many others. It's supposed to be "the word of a bushi" but I don't really know if this is "real" history or "reel" history.

Does anyone know? Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I don't really know if this is "real" history or "reel" history.
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That's exactly what I'm trying to determine, WT. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
takuan wrote:
Wave Tossed wrote:
I don't really know if this is "real" history or "reel" history.
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That's exactly what I'm trying to determine, WT. Thanks.
I tend to think that there might actually be something in this. Kobayashi shows his character Tsugumo, doing a "sword's promise" during SEPPUKU. I never got the impression that Kobayashi was big on "reel history" stuff. I believe that in SEPPUKU, Kobayashi was attempting to show a realistic portrayal of early Edo period life -- in this way, he could make his point about the hypocracy that had existed under the cloak of "bushido."

I do not know, just speculating. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's a good question. I'm inclined to think that it's simply a feature of modern movies because I've never seen anything about that anywhere in a history book, to my recollection. I could always be wrong though. Wouldn't be the first time... Confused
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