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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Thomas Blake Glover Reply with quote
There's been a new or fairly new documentary about the life of Thomas Blake Glover and his relations with the Mōri, Nabeshima, Shimazu and Yamauchi clans.

For those who have no access to BBC I player or British tv in general I managed to find a upload on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kh89KSCWOY

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you. I did.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for posting this. Managed to grab the MP4 so I can watch it on my phone.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ach! How did I miss this one? I've got it loading on youtube so I can relax with my afternoon coffee and a lovely BBC documentary (it's one of my guilty pleasures). Cheers, y'all!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks so much for sharing this link!

Sadly, there are just way too many historical inaccuracies or misunderstandings here... Not even a couple minutes in, and you're saying that before Meiji, Japan was "medieval"? Come on, people. I've just prepared for a podcast talking about economic development during the Edo period, why the Edo period is legitimately called the "early modern period," and how it was really only about 100 years behind England in many ways.

Glover's story may be interesting, and this doc's coverage of his story may be well-done, but the underlying treatment of Japan's level of development, and Japan's foreign interactions, are terribly stereotyped. They really should have consulted a real historian...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
lordameth wrote:
Thanks so much for sharing this link!

Sadly, there are just way too many historical inaccuracies or misunderstandings here... <snip> They really should have consulted a real historian...
Alas, I couldn't wait to watch; I'm about halfway through, and already they are telling me that Satsuma controlled Nagasaki (!) and that the Namamugi incident occurred as Shimazu and his retinue were going TO Edo! And yeah, there's a lot of stereotyping here, oversimplification, probably partially because they didn't have the time to expand on the whole situation. Entertaining but imperfect.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just listened to the Scotland BBC program on Glover. Certainly, there are many generalizations and exaggerations that end with Glover being responsible for the ships that were built, the improvements for mining, and the growth of the 3rd biggest army in the world at that time. At the end, the wording ties him beyond Mitsubishi and Kirin to Sony and other famous brands and accomplishments in the future as if he was in some ways single-handedly responsible for the modernization of Japan. Though he most probably did have an influence on the growth of modern machinery in Japan for ships and coal, on brewery of the Kirin brand, and even influenced Ito Hirobumi in his early education, I seriously doubt that technology in Japan would have been possible without the curiosity, ingenuity and hard work of the Japanese. Glover as the most important samurai? That is laughable!

Thanks for sharing this. I have a great interest in early Meiji.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not a lot of people know this, but his moustache deserves most of the credit for his achievements.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kitsuno wrote:
Not a lot of people know this, but his moustache deserves most of the credit for his achievements.


Egads! You're right! Iwasaki Yataro's mustache had at least as many great achievements! Never underestimate the power and influence of facial hair...


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
onnamusha wrote:
kitsuno wrote:
Not a lot of people know this, but his moustache deserves most of the credit for his achievements.


Egads! You're right! Iwasaki Yataro's mustache had at least as many great achievements! Never underestimate the power and influence of facial hair...



He has a quite impressive haircut as well. Shocked Laughing
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