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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:11 am    Post subject: Steven Seagal clip Reply with quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muPRNEGXnow

What do you think of that? Not bad for a movie actor.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
very interesting. I must say I never really likded Steven Seagal. I think Chuck Norris is way better
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Steven Seagal clip Reply with quote
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muPRNEGXnow

What do you think of that? Not bad for a movie actor.


Well he was a 7th dan in Aikido before he started acting. Unlike most action stars Steven began with martial arts and then much later started acting. I have always been a big fan of his films especially his earlier work.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
When he did above the law

He told a story which may be true about getting involved with aikido after seeing an old man give an amazing demonstration. This I assume being the 10 guys pushing you demo which I also saw about a year ago on the news here in HI from a local "tata"

His earlier work has less fancy stuff and more down to earth combat stuff for a movie in my opinion. Then one day I saw him side step for no reason at all after taking out a bad guy and I knew he was on the way to the fancy stuff.

I still like his movies though I can tell you the plot in the next 10 he makes and I still enjoy his martial arts

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah Steven was awesome back in the early 90's when he actually did Aikido. Most of his current DTV films he doesn't even do aikido and many of the fights he uses a stunt double. Absolutely pathetic. Although I did enjoy Into the Sun (which actually does have an aikido scene as well as plenty of sword work) nearly all of his new films are utter crap. I haven't seen Shadowman yet, but I have been told he does do aikido in that also his newest film Attack Force comes out in a couple of weeks.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I miss his badass brooklyn cop movies Sad

But "into the sun" was good, it was about time he put that Japanese to work.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nothing beats his commercials!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VYLCP0JeIU
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: Steven Seagal clip Reply with quote
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Masato the Silverwolf wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muPRNEGXnow

What do you think of that? Not bad for a movie actor.


Well he was a 7th dan in Aikido before he started acting. Unlike most action stars Steven began with martial arts and then much later started acting. I have always been a big fan of his films especially his earlier work.


his early ones were good but once he started getting involved with DMX and those guys his movies kinda got bad. and some of his newer ones are even worse
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: Steven Seagal clip Reply with quote
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his early ones were good but once he started getting involved with DMX and those guys his movies kinda got bad. and some of his newer ones are even worse


The problem was when he grew some sort of tree hugger hippie morals and decided he wanted to be an eco-warrior not an ass-kicking tough guy.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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very interesting. I must say I never really likded Steven Seagal. I think Chuck Norris is way better


I have to agree. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
At least Chuck Norris has an excuse why he can't convey any emotion with his face - it's not that he's a bad actor, his face is carved out of granite.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think Van Damme and Segal were always more interesting than Chuck. Van Damme became a druggee and Segal became a spiritualist. Too bad. I'd rather watch a bad Segal or Van Damme movie that a good Chuck Norris movie. Oh.. wait, there are no good Chuck Norris movies.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, I prefer Segal than Chuck... I always liked the ponytail hair of Segal. To bad he removed it ...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: Steven Seagal clip Reply with quote
kitsuno wrote:
LordKenshin wrote:

his early ones were good but once he started getting involved with DMX and those guys his movies kinda got bad. and some of his newer ones are even worse


The problem was when he grew some sort of tree hugger hippie morals and decided he wanted to be an eco-warrior not an ass-kicking tough guy.


so true
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: Steven Seagal clip Reply with quote
kitsuno wrote:
LordKenshin wrote:

his early ones were good but once he started getting involved with DMX and those guys his movies kinda got bad. and some of his newer ones are even worse


The problem was when he grew some sort of tree hugger hippie morals and decided he wanted to be an eco-warrior not an ass-kicking tough guy.


At least he fought for something worth it(even though it didnt do anything good), unlike Vandamme who was fighting to buy coke.

Did you know Seagal got choke by his own bodyguard until he passed out?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I heard that about Van Damme about two years ago. I had had no idea.

In Hell: http://imdb.com/title/tt0339135/
Wake of Death: http://imdb.com/title/tt0367478/

The latter is pretty good--Van Damme sported some good acting!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm still a Van Damme fan, although nothing will ever stand up to Bloodsport - the best fight movie ever made! (no joke!) And the number 2 cool movie, Cyborg.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The best martial arts movie is enter the dragon. no one beats bruce lee
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
OH yeah! Forgot about Bruce Lee, misterious person indeed... He'll always be my idol.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
also I liked return of the dragon.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Steven Seagal clip Reply with quote
kitsuno wrote:
LordKenshin wrote:

his early ones were good but once he started getting involved with DMX and those guys his movies kinda got bad. and some of his newer ones are even worse


The problem was when he grew some sort of tree hugger hippie morals and decided he wanted to be an eco-warrior not an ass-kicking tough guy.


I don't know I really liked that speech he gave at the end of the movie filmed in Alaska. Nothing wrong with a litle education along with some action. He even did the same thing with Above the Law concerning CIA

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Steven Seagal clip Reply with quote
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I don't know I really liked that speech he gave at the end of the movie filmed in Alaska. Nothing wrong with a litle education along with some action. He even did the same thing with Above the Law concerning CIA


Well, I respect his convictions, and if he is able to help people and the environment, all the better. It's just that I'm an old school martial arts movie fan, I like bad ass good guys breaking bad guy bones and shooting people. That's what I call entertainment! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
i like steven very much...is far away better than Norris or Van damme.He is a real master and has a deep knowledge of Aikido. Norris(like Van damme) knows only three kick and use them till boredom..
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Norris(like Van damme) knows only three kick and use them till boredom..


That's because his 4th kick splits atoms.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: segal's movies Reply with quote
Hi All, The problem with those that become celebrities through the movies is that they start to believe their own press releases after a time. Being in the public eye could be a root cause of some of the problems they go through. All the actors mentioned had flashes of genius, hard to maintain. Chuck Norris is producing Christian based movies and supports the anti-drug movement among martial artists, as he has found a new spirituality. Segal has received honours from the Tibetan buddhists for his help in promoting support for their cause. I must say at least there is something positive in what they are doing. Segal is making movies outside of the US lately, lots of gunplay but that may be because he has balooned just like Rutger Hauer did subsequent to Bladerunner and Blind Justice. They all had their time. John
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