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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: This is for Matt Reply with quote
Matt, Man I enjoyed this and I think you will enjoy it too, just don't burn your pc up replaying it Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLCAeFOpHUY
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: This is for Matt Reply with quote
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Matt, Man I enjoyed this and I think you will enjoy it too, just don't burn your pc up replaying it Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLCAeFOpHUY


That's interesting. And it reminds me to ask the sword peeps - are you taught to attack the forearms? It seems that the closest weak spot to your sword is your opponent's forearms - and if they can't swing, they lose. Or do you tend to get too close to make them a viable target?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
In Itto ryu, one often attacks the forarms such as in kiriotoshi the main kata of Ona Ha itto Ryu. If a real sword were in use it would cut through the opponets arms and therefor through the centerline of their attack. One waits till uchidachi's attack has become dedicated, then you use timing in an aiuchi fashion to win, and because of timing you survive.

http://www.koryubooks.com/photos/gamoono2.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey Kit,

Could you do me a favor and give me the kanji for origote?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Could you do me a favor and give me the kanji for origote?


Don't know what that is - I assume the "Ori" is "break". What does it mean?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
See pitcure above. Origote is the large deerskin gloves that keep a bokken from breaking your wrists or forarms.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seems that the word is too specialized for any dictionary I have.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well if youcome up with anything let me know. The reason is, i had them but lost them, and the only way I can get to a Japanese company who sells them is with the kanji, not that I need them, but it was one of those nice to know things Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
How do you lose giant deerskin oven mits like that?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:56 am    Post subject: Re: This is for Matt Reply with quote
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLCAeFOpHUY


Excellent footage. I had to listen to it with the sound off so my boss wouldn't hear.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kitsuno,

In Musou Shinden Ryuu there are many wrist attacks. As a matter of fact in Kendou the wrist is one of the only three targets you can hit.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
rikoseishin,

That is a very groovy video. My sensei has a copy of the DVD that has that video and the Ueshiba video from the same time period. That copy of the Nakayama Hakudou one that he has also shows some very excellent tameshigiri.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Matt,

I had no idea there was a video of Nakayama Doing tameshigiri.

You know I am not that big on it myself. Alot of gendai like Nakamura and Toyama ru do alot. But when Nakamura sensei was still alive there was not that much going on.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
rikoseishin,

It was a video bought, I believe, from the now-defunct Buyu Books.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: youtube Reply with quote
Hi All, Can youtube videos be downloaded to HD for archiving? Some like above are worth saving. John
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kit,

This should explain to you better than I can whta the origote are for Just Kidding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe0IRMbcXWQ
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: This is for Matt Reply with quote
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rikoseishin wrote:
Matt, Man I enjoyed this and I think you will enjoy it too, just don't burn your pc up replaying it Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLCAeFOpHUY


That's interesting. And it reminds me to ask the sword peeps - are you taught to attack the forearms? It seems that the closest weak spot to your sword is your opponent's forearms - and if they can't swing, they lose. Or do you tend to get too close to make them a viable target?


When I took kenjutsu we were taught to attack the top of the forearm or to slide edge the sword underneath
their wrists.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
In chinese martial arts, chinese straight sword movements emphasize cutting the tendons in the forearms so an opponent won't be able to carry a weapon or fight really. Chinese straight swords aren't designed for the same type of combat as most japanese swords. They are more flexible and are used to do a different type of damage.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
niitsu kakunoshin wrote:
In chinese martial arts, chinese straight sword movements emphasize cutting the tendons in the forearms so an opponent won't be able to carry a weapon or fight really. Chinese straight swords aren't designed for the same type of combat as most japanese swords. They are more flexible and are used to do a different type of damage.


The main points of attack for us in kenjutsu was the forearm, the wrist, the temple, the zaphoid process (1/2" below the sternum.), behind the knee etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Re: youtube Reply with quote
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Hi All, Can youtube videos be downloaded to HD for archiving? Some like above are worth saving. John


I have a link to a downloader here

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Martial_Arts_Ads_And_Discussion/links

Never tried it just posted it

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Watching these older videos of beautiful basics mastered reminds me to continue to work on my basics. Forget the flash forget the "extreme martial arts" What I see in this videos is far better than I seen in any modern video that I can recall

No showing off, just - this is what I do is what those old videos say to me

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: downloader Reply with quote
Hi Rick, I have to join that group? I'll let you know if it works out. Thanks, John
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: link Reply with quote
Hi Rick, I ended up with another yahoo group account but do not see how it helps me download you tube video. Thanks anyway. John
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: youtube Reply with quote
shin no sen wrote:
Hi All, Can youtube videos be downloaded to HD for archiving? Some like above are worth saving. John


I haven't tried it myself, but the KeepVid site supposedly makes it possible.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This extension for firefox is supposed to work - I have installed it but have to restart my browser to test it, so when i do, I'll let you know how it works:

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2254/

(I did read that you need to download special software to actually view youtube videos that you get)
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