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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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This one looks good for motorcycle.


To drive an....Honda ? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
One of the highlights of 'Komyo ga Tsuji' for me were historical characters wearing the right type of kawari kabuto. Right On Clap clap

A brief scene showing Fukushima Masanori and Kato Kiyomasa standing together, shouting orders to their men:
Fukushima Masanori wearing this type:

Kato Kiyomasa:


During the Sekigahara campaign, a humorous scene as several of the greatest commanders almost got into a brawl. Fukushima Masanori attacking Ii Naomasa as Kuroda Nagamasa tried to separate the two!
Ii Naomasa wearing this one:

Kuroda Nagamasa wearing this one:


During the battle of Sekigahara Tokugawa Ieyasu with Ii Naomasa and Honda Tadakatsu at his side:
Ieyasu:

Honda Tadakatsu:

On the other side of the battlefield, Ishida Mitsunari:


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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This one looks good for motorcycle.


As Carlo said, the 'Honda' Highway Patrol! Just Kidding
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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As Carlo said, the 'Honda' Highway Patrol! Just Kidding


I wonder if is there any family connection, as per
is for the Mitsui with the former Mitsui Bank...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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This one looks good for motorcycle.


Laughing It does!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Does anyone have an idea what particular samurai this helmet is attributed to (if any)?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ebisu no Kamisama Just Kidding
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
the golden octopus helmet looks inspired by H. P Lovecraft's Call of Cthulu.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Golden Octopus helmet definatly rocks.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Most unusual Japanese weapons or armor. Reply with quote
Tatsunoshi wrote:
I've always liked the handguns that were disguised as daggers, knives, or short swords.


I once found this site with unusual tantô.
http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/unji.htm
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's debated if such items have to be called
Kubikiri tanto or Nata, i.e. if they were used to
cut heads or....grass.

Anyway here some better pics :

supposedly Kubikiri Tanto :





Supposedly Nata (just the kissaki shape as
difference) :


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, as the thread has been awakened again, here
the first Osoraku Tantô ever made. Forged by
Sukemune, it's a mere 23 cm (less than 10 inches),
and was owned by Takeda Shingen (should have been
added to the Samuraiwiki page?) :



a couple of pistol tanto:





and a (shrug...) serrated-back wakizashi :


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this reletive to your interests? I don't know much about it. But Its suppositly one of Japans National Treasures. Or atleast thats what the all mighty wikipedia says.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-Branched_Sword
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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But Its suppositly one of Japans National Treasures. Or atleast thats what the all mighty wikipedia says.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-Branched_Sword


Does anyone know how accurate this wiki entry is? I've read in an article online that in ancient times that japan was known as 'Wa'. Said article is the one that I posted in the origins of japan thread recently. So keeping this wiki entry in mind it seems that that the/a ruler in korea had this made and presented to the/a ruler of japan at the time. Any thoughts?

I've seen this sword pop up in popular culture for a good deal of time now. The first time I saw it was in a game called Demon Sword made by Tatio in 1989 for the original NES. Sadly I don't recall much of the game. Recently, I have seen it as a treasured sword in a japanese movie called Jipangu and as the sword that Uesugi Kenshin wields in the Samurai Masou (Warriors) line of games as well.

I would love to hear more info on this sword and its roots, legends and owners.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Is this reletive to your interests? I don't know much about it.


Yes, I know it. It's very strange but not japanese,
and controversial.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
SicklyBug wrote:
Does anyone know how accurate this wiki entry is? I've read in an article online that in ancient times that japan was known as 'Wa'. Said article is the one that I posted in the origins of japan thread recently. So keeping this wiki entry in mind it seems that that the/a ruler in korea had this made and presented to the/a ruler of japan at the time. Any thoughts?
...OMISSIS...
I would love to hear more info on this sword and its roots, legends and owners.


As accurate as a wikipedia entry can be... I doubt it

I suggest to read the books in the bibliography
BUT the Wontack Hong nationalist bullshits.

IMHO it is continental and was sent as a present to
the/a japanese ruler, period.
Reasons of making this and who ruled who is better
explained having a view of the "big picture" of the
period, hence my suggestion to read those books.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Check this older thread out: http://forums.samurai-archives.com/viewtopic.php?t=815

If you have any other questions about the sword after reading this, let me know.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for the heads up. I had no idea the thread existed.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's alright...the Ancient Japan forum is a dusty and oft-forgotten tomb Wink

I keep kicking myself for not knowing that the sword was kept at the Isonokami Shrine when I visited there this past summer. I wonder if it is even on display (during normal "business (worship?) hours".
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="Tsubame1"]
SicklyBug wrote:

I suggest to read the books in the bibliography
BUT the Wontack Hong nationalist bullshits.

IMHO it is continental and was sent as a present to
the/a japanese ruler, period.
Reasons of making this and who ruled who is better
explained having a view of the "big picture" of the
period, hence my suggestion to read those books.



"Wontack Hong nationalist"???

btw, the 7 blade sword reminds me of the Dark Dragon Blade from NG Xbox.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
nagaeyari wrote:

I keep kicking myself for not knowing that the sword was kept at the Isonokami Shrine when I visited there this past summer. I wonder if it is even on display (during normal "business (worship?) hours".


The gaijin card works pretty well for stuff like that - I've gotten a look at a few things hidden away in temples - the attending monks have always been nice when the Japanese-history interested Japanese-speaking gaijin asks to see something that comes up in conversation Wink
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I should know things like this, but I'm always taken aback by the special treatment. I did get to do cool things/see cool things, but it's always been passive on my part.

I gotta get active with my gaijin self!
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tsubame1 wrote:
Lord Ruin wrote:
Is this reletive to your interests? I don't know much about it.


Yes, I know it. It's very strange but not japanese,
and controversial.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lord Ruin wrote:
Is this reletive to your interests? I don't know much about it. But Its suppositly one of Japans National Treasures. Or atleast thats what the all mighty wikipedia says.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-Branched_Sword


If it's a Japanese National Treasure, then why is it on display with a sign entirely in Hangul (Korean)?

I doubt it
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ltdomer98 wrote:
Lord Ruin wrote:
Is this reletive to your interests? I don't know much about it. But Its suppositly one of Japans National Treasures. Or atleast thats what the all mighty wikipedia says.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-Branched_Sword


If it's a Japanese National Treasure, then why is it on display with a sign entirely in Hangul (Korean)?
I doubt it



It has Korean because it was made in Korea, I believe, and there are numerous replicas in Korea.


Anyways, this is an interesting weapon/artifact:
It is sword made in Korea, given as a gift to Japan, inscribed with Chinese characters. Very Happy
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