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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Keanu Reeves talks


Okay, you lost me there...


How about Keanu babbles?


No no, I knew what you were saying. That's where you lost my INTEREST.


I assume I also lost your interest because this film is based during the Edo period.


The what? They named a whole period after Ohta Dokan's little dinky place?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:09 pm    Post subject: 47 Reply with quote
I think this film could make me fall of the wagon .

Middle Kingdom ,Hobbits ,Dragons and Elves and Fuwa .

Notice the film has been pushed back to 11/2012!!!!! ,Oh too bad the World's going to end ,No Oscar for Keanu .
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It will be a beautiful love story. I can't wait. Sick
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:02 pm    Post subject: RE Reply with quote
Asano Tadanobu is in "Thor " ,Must be where it all went wrong .
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Photo of Kianu as "Kai" released.
http://cia-film.blogspot.com/2011/11/movie-news-tidbits-3dand-more_26.html
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Photo of Kianu as "Kai" released.
http://cia-film.blogspot.com/2011/11/movie-news-tidbits-3dand-more_26.html


I wonder where that is?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Open set?
There is Asano clan's crest right above Keanu.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
There is serious confusion of Japanese and Chinese culture.
This movie will be horrible.
http://screenrant.com/47-ronin-set-photos-keanu-reeves-sandy-141206/
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh god. That blue one in particular looks absolutely horrible. "Aiming to be more of a culturally-authentic recreation of the legend" my ass.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The what? They named a whole period after Ohta Dokan's little dinky place?


Yeah. Strange, isn't it? I mean, we all know nothing of consequence ever happens in the Kantô.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A couple of those costumes look like they came from the original Mortal Combat movie.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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There is serious confusion of Japanese and Chinese culture.
This movie will be horrible.
http://screenrant.com/47-ronin-set-photos-keanu-reeves-sandy-141206/


And don't forget, that they're going to be mixing CGI monsters into the action as well. I'd almost be looking forward to watching it just for laughs...if it wasn't for the fact it'll likely spawn a renewed wave of Ronin worship.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:59 am    Post subject: Hollywoods 47 ronin remake Reply with quote
That's a given i can see the History Channel gearing up to educate the plonkers and rambling on about the essence of Bushido blah blah .

Who would have thought the murder of an old man and his mostly unarmed retainers and servants could be twisted and morphed into such an act of valor .

Not the first time Hollywood has had its sights on this story though in the 60's it was mooted for a remake as a western but the writers were unable to pull it off without losing much of the original story ,again it has resurfaced over the years with various directors like Walter Hill attached to it as either a western or a more modern adventure set on the Mexican /Texas border and those i could live with, especially a Hill film which would have a Peckinpah style finale ,even John Woo was mentioned for this project in the 90's finally it was abandoned for good .

This latest version is really about Hollywood trying to merge L.O.T.R ,Superhero's,Harry Potter and Crouching Tiger all in one money making project .
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks like this sure-to-be classic, which has already been pushed back once to February, has been pushed back once again-to December. December of 2013.

Click here for an interesting take on what a mess production has turned into. With luck, this 200 million dollar train wreck will never find its way into theaters.

You'll recall this is the film Turnbull acted as historical consultant on, and despite the fantasy costumes, complete lack of accuracy to the historical situation, and the addition of copious scenes of major samurai battles in the Edo period complete with CGI yokai creatures, claims is still perfectly fine as an historical piece.

In other Turnbull news, this is the first time I can recall in at least 15 years that he has no new books on the horizon. Could the good doc have finally retired, or did he make enough green from this disaster to 'go Hollywood'? He has written a new foreward for Tuttle's reprint of John Allyn's "47 Ronin" book. Allyn's book is the absolute most wretched steaming pile of dung I have ever read that purports to describe an historical event. It makes the play 'Chushingura' look like it was written by ronin-hatahs. He even has Tsunayoshi stumbling over the attack in the hall of pines, coddling Kira, and having Asano drug off. And Oishi fretting over all the houses of ill repute in Edo and wanting to talk to Asano about getting rid of them (whereas the real Oishi gamely spent many hours trolling whorehouses looking for women for Asano). But thankfully, Turnbull points out it's all crap (he does that in his forewards-like in Sadler's bio of Ieyasu) and pretty much plagiarizes his own 47 Ronin book for the foreward, in many cases lifting sentences word for word. Guy can't even help stealing from himself.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Guy can't even help stealing from himself.


Laughing That's been his M.O. from the beginning, since half his books are reprints of previous books.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow! the comments section by industry people is great.

http://moviecitynews.com/2012/08/bury-the-dead-47-ronin/

Read down the comments section after the article .

My favorite quote

"$200 mill how expensive can it get to have a bunch of people riding on horses shooting arrows and kicking each other in the face ".

Other tidbits a first time director given this project because he is dating Ridley Scot's Daughter .
That director actually is the third director attached to this film .

Or Keanu is the only known actor with a cast of unknowns .

Sure the good doctor has been paid off and sent packing ,actually being attached to this could sink him .At this point there is a lot of doubt it will ever come out .
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
As far as unknowns, there are actually some pretty good and well known Japanese actors in the cast-Hiroyuki Sanada being the best known. Of course, one of the things I've seen is that the reshoots are meant to take the focus off of the ensemble cast and focus more on Keanu's character. Which will effectively remove the one reason to watch the movie. By the time they're done, they might just end up dispensing with the '47' altogether and just calling it 'Ronin' (and then hopefully Frank Miller will sue their ass).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:47 am    Post subject: 47 Ronin Reply with quote
Asano Tadanobu and Rinko Kikuchi are not exactly unknown actors either .
Still the comments speak volumes about the ignorance of the industry insiders not to mention the envy directed at the director because he is Scot's protege .
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Maybe Tom Cruise can be kaishakunin and finish it off.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
According to IMDB this movie is in post production, so it looks like the apocalypse is near....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: 47 Reply with quote
The latest is the film is finished but the director was fired from post production.
Going 100 mil over budget is pretty bad ,But Universal were very upset about about the lack of screen time given Reeves ,So they ordered extensive re shoots of all these extra fighting scenes with Keanu and now the film is a complete mess .

Ronins Gate .
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 47 Reply with quote
IMDB now has a release date of December 25, 2013.
They've now moved it off another year, hopefully with the intention that everyone will have forgotten about the whole thing by then.
We can all breathe a sigh of relief,I think.



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The latest is the film is finished but the director was fired from post production.
Going 100 mil over budget is pretty bad ,But Universal were very upset about about the lack of screen time given Reeves ,So they ordered extensive re shoots of all these extra fighting scenes with Keanu and now the film is a complete mess .

Ronins Gate .
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Hollywood 47 Ronin Reply with quote
It is funny the director was given the boot more for the lack of Reeves screen time than going over budget .
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I actually had high hopes for this film, but then I saw this (old) pic:
http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/47-ronin-costume-blue.jpg

I cannot decide what is the worst part; the garish chinese rayon gi, the all-soft-leather helmet, the Conan-fantasy arm guard, the leather-flames on the throat guard – or the blue metallic colour.

Not even Cosplay-kids who make their own outfits do it this bad. Somebody (Dr T?) should be banned from the industry for life.

Even giving the actors Borat Mankinis would not have ruin the film half as much as these pure fantasy creations…

Anybody in these forums know if there will be any (black, red, blue, white, camo?) Ninjers in the film?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:02 pm    Post subject: Hollywood 47 Ronin Reply with quote
Yeah Reeves character is meant to be part ninjer .

Ooooohhh i feel quiet ill !.

Do agree Dr T needs to be banished to the North Pole for his sage historical advice on this travesty .
To think i thought Taira No Kiyomori was bad .
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