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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: You All Waited For This For So Long Reply with quote
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/chushingura/
yes 2012 will be the year of Chushingura and here is the first one out of the gate .

Plot is "oh who gives a **** " same as every other rendition of this story .
They could be more creative and have Oishi and co running around Edo killing Senior Citizen's in the dead of night while Edo's older population are plunged into terror and dread (sigh!)but alas dreams do not come true it will be same ol same ol.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great - it's been ages since I've seen a 47 Ronin film.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Which reminds me, Turnbull's 47 Ronin Book is debuting next week. Oh, joy. Beat the freak
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:11 am    Post subject: 47 Ronin Reply with quote
True joy indeed !!!!! "Ronin a Palooza" .
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Which reminds me, Turnbull's 47 Ronin Book is debuting next week. Oh, joy. Beat the freak


I wonder what references he has used for this book?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'll let you know. I admit that I still hold out hope that Turnbull will have used more current sources and it will actually be decent.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'll let you know. I admit that I still hold out hope that Turnbull will have used more current sources and it will actually be decent.


I suppose now is not the time to tell you that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny aren't real, huh?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Tatsunoshi wrote:
I'll let you know. I admit that I still hold out hope that Turnbull will have used more current sources and it will actually be decent.


I suppose now is not the time to tell you that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny aren't real, huh?


I'm a eternal optimist. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm a eternal optimist. Very Happy


Here's that bucket of icy cold water in the face:

From 1600 till 1866 civil strife in public was virtually unknown in Japan; however, personal loyalty and self-sacrifice could at times rise above the samurai hierarchy to redefine Japanese culture. In 1703 former samurai avenged their lord in the most legendary raid in Japanese history. The story of the 47 ronin is a tale rich in emotion, precise planning, and flawless martial execution.

This was the raid that turned Japan upside down.

Lord Kira had brought about the death of Lord Asano, thus making Asano's loyal samurai into ronin (unemployed 'men of the waves'). In complete secrecy they plotted their revenge, and one snowy winter's night launched a raid against his mansion in Edo.

The gates were broken down, and after the fiercest sword battle seen in Japan for over a century Kira was captured and beheaded. His head was washed and placed on Asano's tomb. The Shogun had now been placed in a dilemma. Should he reward the 47 Ronin for behaving more like true samurai than anyone since the time of civil wars, or should they be punished for breaking the strict laws about taking revenge?

Laughing Laughing ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO


Holy s**t I almost ruptured my spleen laughing.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fiercest sword battle against unarmed household servants. I wonder how many of the wounds were on the backs of the servants because they were trying to escape their attackers? Or to their hands and arms in the form of defensive wounds (holding up their arms to try and protect themselves)?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Here's that bucket of icy cold water in the face:

From 1600 till 1866 civil strife in public was virtually unknown in Japan; however, personal loyalty and self-sacrifice could at times rise above the samurai hierarchy to redefine Japanese culture. In 1703 former samurai avenged their lord in the most legendary raid in Japanese history. The story of the 47 ronin is a tale rich in emotion, precise planning, and flawless martial execution.

This was the raid that turned Japan upside down.

Lord Kira had brought about the death of Lord Asano, thus making Asano's loyal samurai into ronin (unemployed 'men of the waves'). In complete secrecy they plotted their revenge, and one snowy winter's night launched a raid against his mansion in Edo.

The gates were broken down, and after the fiercest sword battle seen in Japan for over a century Kira was captured and beheaded. His head was washed and placed on Asano's tomb. The Shogun had now been placed in a dilemma. Should he reward the 47 Ronin for behaving more like true samurai than anyone since the time of civil wars, or should they be punished for breaking the strict laws about taking revenge?

Laughing Laughing ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO


Holy s**t I almost ruptured my spleen laughing.


It does indeed sound like the epitome of assclownery, doesn't it?

In fact, if it turns out to be just that and I review it for the blog, I think I've found my title.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:36 pm    Post subject: Raid on Reply with quote
Oh Churnbull you did it again !!!!.

Now there is a 05 TV Movie starring Tsutsumi Shinichi and Kusanaga Tsuoshi titled Tokugawa Tsunayoshi (Forget the whole title )that has the most accurate depiction of the raid on film period .

Get this ...Tsunayoshi and Yanisagawa Yoshiatsu are having a baby together complete with xmas carols on the soundtrack (ok ok Its Yanisagawa's wife that actually gives birth but she is somewhat of an after thought if you get my meaning )the camera moves to the 47 home invasion specialists of yore .

After a rude break in they are depicted going on a rampage of killing and blood lust only halted when poor old Naeoto Takenaka as Kira is dragged from the coal shed and dispatched .

The following morning the new proud fathers or husband and wife take your pick on who is who ,visit whats left of the Kira abode and what a bloody site it is indeed ,dead servant's and a few guards litter the courtyard .

This of course seals the fate of the 47 .

Made by the same folks who gave us O-oku the depiction of Asano is not to be missed either ,on being informed he will have to serve under Kira at the Envoy's reception he screams and howls and leaps up and down in blood vessel bursting rage .

Sadly this has never been on DVD or VHS and that is tragic ,but id rather sit through this than read Churnbull's opus which will leave a grimace on my face like that of acute constipation .
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The verdict is in on Turnbull.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow, I am very surprised and impressed. Great job Dr. Turnbull. I actually am looking forward to reading this book now.

On the issue of the number of samurai in Lord Kira's home, you mentioned that Turnbull claims there were 14. The stipend numbers is good evidence but not absolute proof that there were 14 samurai at his mansion at the time of the raid. But Turnbull states the memorial at the site of Kira's mansion lists the names of 14 samurai as well. That is also good evidence but I wonder where the information for the memorial came from. The memorial certainly must be well known to other 47 Ronin historians as well so why has it not been referenced by others.

I should place this comment in the 47 Ronin thread.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Turnbull Reply with quote
Yes i am impressed he has done a good job .
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
If anyone is thinking of picking up Turnbull's new book, grab it here:

http://astore.amazon.com/samurai-20/detail/1849084270

It won't cost you a penny extra, but it will generate a few pennies to help pay for the Samurai Archives Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wait, so he actually did research for a book for once, and didn't just slap it together to make money? Well let's all congratulate him and slap his back for doing what he should have been doing all along.
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My family always watch Hakone Ekiden in Shogatsu so I cannot watch the 12ch Jidaigeki.
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