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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Kofun period human skeleton in armor discovered. Reply with quote
Gunma prefecture.
http://mainichi.jp/select/news/20121211k0000m040063000c.html

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fortuitous timing.

I had just finished writing this up:

http://japanesearchaeology.com/2012/12/11/kanai-higashiura-iseki-remains-found-of-kofun-period-man-wearing-armor/
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fortuitous timing.

I had just finished writing this up:

http://japanesearchaeology.com/2012/12/11/kanai-higashiura-iseki-remains-found-of-kofun-period-man-wearing-armor/
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have contacted customer service -- didn't visit my own site for so long, I didn't even know!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I have contacted customer service -- didn't visit my own site for so long, I didn't even know!


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is just SO freaking cool.

I can't wait until they've been able to study that armour better. Hot DIGGITY!

.... ahem.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Maybe they will find a connection with Baekje Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Maybe they will find a connection with Baekje


Why are you interested in a Baekje connection? Kaya-, Silla-, and Koguryo-influenced lamellar armor was in Japan for some sixty years at this point, but Baekje is not often cited as a source for this type of armor.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for the explanation, I have always had a fascination with Baekje so I only hoped... Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
There are definitely a lot of areas where Baekje's influence can be see, however. If you are planning on looking into Baekje--Wa relations, let me know what you have read and I will see if I can't recommend any more additional resources.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The armour on this poor fellow who was caught in some type of clastic flow or something could be of the 'tanko' type I think. I wonder if anything new will be surmised from it? John
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Researchers actually deemed (check my article for link to original Japanese) that it is lamellar armor (keikou, more commonly called kozanekou nowadays).

I, too, am excited to hear what specialists will discover, but the most information might be about the style of binding of the lamellae, considering the preservation condition.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh, they have determined 'keiko' already. Looking at the pictures it seemed a 'tanko' to me. John
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is a bit of a shift in topic, but Nags, what's the general state of archaeology over there in Japan? How does it work if you want to develop a site? Peter Bleed at Nebraska said he was going to get in contact with some folks regarding possibly doing some work at Nagashino in the future for me, but hasn't gotten back to me on that specifically. I was just wondering what the archae world was like over there. Is it mostly confined to Kofun and before stuff? I know they found the Honnoji site a few years ago and did some excavation, and I think I've seen work being done at Ichijodani, but I'd be interested to just know how it all works.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Domer,

There is work being done around the Gifu Castle area related to Nobunaga's palace. They have a link and it is not bad at all. http://www.nobunaga-kyokan.jp/blog/
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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This is a bit of a shift in topic, but Nags, what's the general state of archaeology over there in Japan? How does it work if you want to develop a site? Peter Bleed at Nebraska said he was going to get in contact with some folks regarding possibly doing some work at Nagashino in the future for me, but hasn't gotten back to me on that specifically. I was just wondering what the archae world was like over there. Is it mostly confined to Kofun and before stuff? I know they found the Honnoji site a few years ago and did some excavation, and I think I've seen work being done at Ichijodani, but I'd be interested to just know how it all works.


There are two types of archaeological excavation in Japan: academic and rescue. The majority of digs are the latter, conducted in conjunction with development and construction to safeguard the destruction of any possible sites or artifacts.

On the other hand, academic digs are conducted for the express purpose of furthering our understanding of the past, and are often carried out by universities, as opposed to the local boards of education.

Any plans to dig have to be written up, sent into, and approved by the 文化庁. It is a rather rigorous process, in which the agency deems whether the dig members are qualified.

While I talk a lot about Yayoi and Kofun digs, there are great numbers of digs going on at any moment of sites of any given period. I have a feed of dig information, and there are actually many Muromachi digs.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
UPDATE: It was announced on December 21 that additional bones were found approximately 19 meters from the initial find. The new discovery consists of two bones around 20 centimeters long, lying parallel, suggesting they are the remains of arms or legs. It is highly likely that more bodies will come to light as the excavation continues. The most common interpretation of the site is currently that of a ceremony of sorts to placate the fiery mountain. This would dovetail with the administrative and ritual responsibilities suggested to have been held by leaders.

( http://japanesearchaeology.com/2012/12/11/kanai-higashiura-iseki-remains-found-of-kofun-period-man-wearing-armor/ )
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Elwe wrote:
Thanks for the explanation, I have always had a fascination with Baekje so I only hoped... Smile


There's popular belief in Korea that Baekje was Roman Empire in Asia.
http://nippon-senmon.tripod.com/hantou/rekishi/kimu_chousenshi.html
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