Register :: Log in :: Profile   


Ancient Assssins Ninjer and 47 Ronin on 11/7

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Samurai Archives Citadel Forum Index // The Samurai Film
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
wicked iemon
The Lemon King
The Lemon King
Iga no Kami
Iga no Kami
Veteran Member



Joined: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 1091
Location: San Francisco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:13 pm    Post subject: Ancient Assssins Ninjer and 47 Ronin on 11/7 Reply with quote
American Heroes channel presents a double whammy tomorrow as both Ninjer and the 47 home invaders are featured .
I saw the Ninjer one already ,Anthony Cummins took us back to 1862 as Hanzo Hattori recuses two of Ieyasu's daughters who are being held prisoner (what ????) .
Worse is yet to come as Cummins tells us that Oda Nobunaga killed the family of master Ninjer Ishikawa Goemon ,to seek revenge Goemon broke into Nobunaga's castle and tried to poison him ala "You Only Live Twice ".

So now with the added bonus of 47 Ronin ,saddle up for some reel tomfoolery .
_________________
"One mans washing machine is another mans music "
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Tatsunoshi
Miko no Kami
Miko no Kami
Forum Kanrei
Forum Kanrei
Multi-Year Benefactor
Multi-Year Benefactor



Joined: 07 May 2006
Posts: 4923
Location: 京都日本 Cincinnati, OH

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Given that Goemon is about as real as Robin Hood, wasn't it Hideyoshi he tried to kill? The whole 'boliled to death in a pot'/Shinobi no Mono thing comes out of that.

But hey, Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, what's the difference as long as Cummins gets his mug on the telebision?
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bethetsu
Oki no Kami
Oki no Kami
Veteran Member



Joined: 14 May 2006
Posts: 1376
Location: Center of Musashi

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It was Hideyoshi he tried to kill.
By the way, old-fashioned kettle-shaped metal baths are called Goemon-buro after his manner of death. The wood fire is lit directly under them. But they are provided with a floating board that you step on to keep from being burned on the bottom of the tub. (The first time I took a bath in one, I could not figure out what the board was for.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
shikisoku
Yamashiro no Kami
Yamashiro no Kami
Veteran Member



Joined: 10 May 2006
Posts: 2638
Location: 天領 Tama

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What is that? TV program?
Can I see that on Youtube?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
wicked iemon
The Lemon King
The Lemon King
Iga no Kami
Iga no Kami
Veteran Member



Joined: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 1091
Location: San Francisco

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:49 pm    Post subject: Ancient Assssins Ninjer and 47 Ronin on 11/7 Reply with quote
I will post it as soon as it is uploaded ,be warned it is quite possibly the worst doc on Samurai i have ever seen .
_________________
"One mans washing machine is another mans music "
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Thunberg
Rice Farmer
Rice Farmer
Veteran Member



Joined: 09 Nov 2012
Posts: 30
Location: Sweden

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cummins himself didn't have high hopes for the documentary:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=148767965177322&story_fbid=747236145330498
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
wicked iemon
The Lemon King
The Lemon King
Iga no Kami
Iga no Kami
Veteran Member



Joined: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 1091
Location: San Francisco

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:18 am    Post subject: Ancient Assssins Ninjer and 47 Ronin on 11/7 Reply with quote
They (History Channel which is an A and E network also ,though this is a British production ) did the same to Romulous Hillsbourough when the Last Samurai came out .
_________________
"One mans washing machine is another mans music "
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Thunberg
Rice Farmer
Rice Farmer
Veteran Member



Joined: 09 Nov 2012
Posts: 30
Location: Sweden

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
They can both be viewed on youtube now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SwtYvgkJsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPiB4lha0T8

Interestingly there were some of the common misconceptions they didn't spout in the 47 ronin episode, there was no mention of Kira being angry for not getting bribed properly(although Asano's attack was still portrayed as a direct response to an insult). But of course they still had the "noble and loyal samurai avenging their lord" angle. And a lot of the lines reminded me of the 100th episode of the SA podcast:

"The Samurai were the elite warriors of Japan"
"The Kataner were the mighty weapon of the Samurai"

The ninja episode, er...

'Ninja!'
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Samurai Archives Citadel Forum Index // The Samurai Film All times are GMT - 10 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Help the Samurai Archives




alexisRed v1.2 // Theme Created By: Andrew Charron // Samuraized By: Aaron Rister

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group