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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:53 am    Post subject: NHK TAIGA Reply with quote
http://cgi.ebay.com/Japanese-Drama-TOKUGAWA-YOSHINOBU-/270757456545?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item3f0a66eaa1
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanks for pointing me in direction of where to pick up.. (would in a second if they had eng subs)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: NHK TAIGA Reply with quote
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Japanese-Drama-TOKUGAWA-YOSHINOBU-/270757456545?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item3f0a66eaa1



E-Bay it is--and challenging without the subs.

But it's worth it.

Will seek out that new Keppouroku, thanks!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's a really well done Taiga, but I'm not going to drop $54 for what I assume is a DVd copy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The same seller has some really rare stuff, like the 1980's Tokugawa Ieyasu taiga and Kasuga no Tsubone.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:28 am    Post subject: Taiga Reply with quote
Pretty sure this is the same vendor
http://www.shopktslab.com/index.php?cPath=41

Anyway while id imagine he cannot give away copy's of Gou the Taiga that should top everyone's to do list is
"Tai Heike ".

Myself if i was flushed id pop for
Yoshinobu
Honshoo/Honmura Tatsu .
and Hana No Ran .
Subs or no subs .
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
$54 is good deal!
Taiga DVD box sets usually cost more than $500.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:15 pm    Post subject: Taiga Reply with quote
That is a really good point .

Some of these dramas will never appear in Subbed Format ever, the recent Sanada Drama was a fluke and a one off .

I sat through un-subbed VHS Versions of Hideyoshi ,Mori Motonari and Tai Heike about 10 years back and of course being familiar with the various stories was a major plus .
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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$54 is good deal!
Taiga DVD box sets usually cost more than $500.


Well, since the person selling it probably burned the ripped files to 35 cent Sony DVD+Rs and is making a profit of about $50 each time it sells, I don't really feel justified in paying that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Actually, it's a way nicer production than that. Full graphics on box, disks, etc.

Even without subs, still beats the natto out of "Jersey Girls" or "American Idol." Just Kidding

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:48 pm    Post subject: Taiga Reply with quote
I think it just comes down to how much you want to see a drama .
Yes sadly it must be a rip and someone is making bookoo dollars though i like to think the vendor is losing his haori on Musashi and Gou not to mention those more modern Taiga's like Inochi .

Where he is really probably making a small fortune is on Idol Dramas like Hana Yori Dango 1 and 2 plus both films .

So comes the moral question .

Yes id really love to see Honshoo Tatsu !.
or
Do i really want to grease this persons palm with my hard earned 50 bucks knowing that he is making a killing ?.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
WL,
my take is if the networks felt it was a good business strategy to make DVD copies with subs and sell/distribute, they would.

sure, one can stand on the moral soapbox and contemplate if one is helping feed a system that is not totally clean. (which is each person's right)

in the case of many programs, there is no alternative to choose that is "clean". (relatively speaking clean)

the real deal, consumer would rather have.
knockoffs if one cannot afford the real deal and wish to be "wannabes" (which is ok)

the storyline of Napster music sharing and then Apple's I-tunes is a good case study of how a legit business responded to a market demand that was created from scratch to fill a void not yet filled by legitimate businesses. (one reason Apple is one of the largest companies in the world now)

To have total disregard to rules and regulation does lead to Chaos.. but. there is much larger worries than if a copy of some TV show or movie is clean.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:42 am    Post subject: Re: Taiga Reply with quote
wicked iemon wrote:
So comes the moral question .

Yes id really love to see Honshoo Tatsu !.
or
Do i really want to grease this persons palm with my hard earned 50 bucks knowing that he is making a killing ?.


I usually just call my wife and say, "Hey, Honey, would you record a bunch of stuff off Jidaigeki Channel and send it to me?"
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:53 am    Post subject: Taiga Reply with quote
Oh you lucky dog !!!

To the present and oh we are going to have so much fun with this ,The brain trust at NHK have decided to name the 2013 Taiga Sakura No Yae of course we can translate that to Yae's Cherry !!!!

Ok let's have at it .
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Actually, it's "Yae no Sakura." Wink

Why did I think none of the Aizu Women's Brigade survived the war? Apparently Yamamoto Yae, the gunnery instructor of some fame did, and went on to make an interesting marriage and assist in the Russo-Japanese war as a nurse.

I'm looking forward to this!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:14 pm    Post subject: Womens Brigade. Reply with quote
My brain is dead so names escape me but the sister of the leader of The Joushitai lived as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Currently watching Hideyoshi. Decent so far, but most of the actors seemed too old for the roles. Sorry, but actor who plays Nobunaga just does not cut mustard. That being said, the best scene so far is when one of the Imagawa ashigaru was going to take a break to urinate, he gets shot up by the Oda army during the Battle of Okehazama. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
owari no utsuke wrote:
Currently watching Hideyoshi. Decent so far, but most of the actors seemed too old for the roles. Sorry, but actor who plays Nobunaga just does not cut mustard. That being said, the best scene so far is when one of the Imagawa ashigaru was going to take a break to urinate, he gets shot up by the Oda army during the Battle of Okehazama. Laughing


Is this the Takenaka Naoto version? Where did you get your hands on it? It's the holy grail of Taiga dramas that you have there. If so, how in the world did you find it?

I always thought it was goofy that Watari Tetsuya played Nobunaga from his 20's, he looked way too old, but I was willing to overlook it since the drama is so great overall - and hey, this is WATARI TETSUYA from Graveyard of Honor, this isn't just some schlub. C'mon, it has Sanada Hiroyuki, Tatsuya Nakadai Exclamation, Takenaka Naoto, Masahiko Nishimura (from Furuhata Ninzaburo), Matsu Takako (back when she was hot), Watari Tetsuya - this is a virtual all star cast! The only real bump in the road for me was Sawaguchi Yasuko, who is not only unattractive, but has an unattractive personality to boot, although the unattractive personality explains Hideyoshi's philandering Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The actor who plays Hideyoshi has the ugliest face I have ever seen. Oh those eyes! Perfect for the role.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: HIDEYOSHI Reply with quote
Sanada as Mitsunari pretty much steals the second part of the drama by playing him like a villain from a Shakespeare Play .

It also has probably the best Honnoji Temple scene on film .

What's missing is the cruel Hideyoshi of his later years .
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: HIDEYOSHI Reply with quote
wicked iemon wrote:
Sanada as Mitsunari pretty much steals the second part of the drama by playing him like a villain from a Shakespeare Play .

It also has probably the best Honnoji Temple scene on film .

What's missing is the cruel Hideyoshi of his later years .


Boiling Goemon to death is a little cruel.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:34 am    Post subject: Goemon Reply with quote
Yes and his wife but they lay the blame directly at Mitsunari rather than Hideyoshi .

Still Komyo would depict a based on what we know more factual interpretation .
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This version was mainly based on Eiji Yoshikawa's book. Great book and great choice, but not all that historically accurate, and Hideyoshi seems to get redeemed at the end.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This version was mainly based on Eiji Yoshikawa's book. Great book and great choice, but not all that historically accurate, and Hideyoshi seems to get redeemed at the end.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:08 am    Post subject: Hideyoshi Reply with quote
That makes sense because Yoshikawa's book though great is very much along the lines of "local boy makes good".

I read this thesis on Hideyoshi's last years and i cannot remember the author ,but anyway the scribe mentions that Hideyoshi had a daughter way back when he was a nobody that he later disowned .

Other tidbits are that during the Taiko's last years his sexual desires were tempered with syphilis to the point one of his concubines caught it off him and went blind in one eye (Omatsu).
Yodo who only had sex with him in her early days escaped as did Hideyori's real father Ono Harunaga .
Anyway long story short pox made him a bad guy .

Ok found it .
http://firstsearch.oclc.org.ezproxy.sfpl.org/WebZ/FSFETCH?fetchtype=fullrecord:sessionid=fsapp4-47430-gqzlc0mn-6n0w84:entitypagenum=16:0:recno=105:resultset=2:format=FI:next=html/record.html:bad=error/badfetch.html:entitytoprecno=105:entitycurrecno=105:numrecs=1
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